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hn_submit 2 days ago [-]
I'm running Linux Mint on a 15 year old desktop with 3GB RAM and it's sufficiently fast even for a software developer.
Why would anyone want or need an operating system that requires 16GB (!) of RAM to run decently? Most of the trash running is probably profiling or spying on you.
pjmlp 1 days ago [-]
Slackware 2.0 run with 32 MB in 1996, so lets not pretend everything is that great on Linux land as well.
bubbluppugus 21 hours ago [-]
Corny argument for bragging rights only; users do more today that Slackware in 1996 just could not account for; it's not all useless bloat.
At one point the OS that's now a complete car was just a wheel which didn't do anything but roll.
pjmlp 20 hours ago [-]
Indeed where would those users be without Electron garbage.
bubbluppugus 19 hours ago [-]
Old man shouts at cloud.
From the generation that gave us XML, SOAP and Trump.
If you cannot contribute except to complain about the kids log off.
Been hearing effectively the same whiny shit since I was a kid in the 1980s when your now long dead elders called your generation "gold star for nothings" and lamented humanity needed another Vietnam to thin you all out.
pjmlp 16 hours ago [-]
Wrong target group.
bubbluppugus 14 hours ago [-]
Biologically maybe. Was really just calling out how banal and repetitive the "kids and their god damn bullshit" energy is
pjmlp 3 hours ago [-]
Is it? We have fluffy, please do not touch, folks nowadays, unable to face any hard straight to the point direct criticism.
cisc 2 days ago [-]
That's great but the context menu is still slow, annoying to use, and much worse than it was in Windows 10.
doubled112 2 days ago [-]
Why does the desktop right click menu take over 1 second to open?
My only Windows machine has a Core Ultra 7 in it, and 32GB of DDR5 RAM. It should be powerful enough to render a menu instantly, I thought.
Or better yet, who at Microsoft decided this performance was adequate? Does nobody care anymore? Or just not the right people?
tencentshill 2 days ago [-]
It sends a network ping. Every mouse movement and click is tracked, even if not sent. Sometimes a random UI element freezes, but when I unplug the ethernet, it pops up instantly.
thereisnospork 2 days ago [-]
Feckless leadership in action. Responsibility has been defused to the point where it's no one's job or responsibility.
mtoner23 2 days ago [-]
wow, I hate that i now know how bad that is. its infuriating
ssdspoimdsjvv 2 days ago [-]
the context menu.. Microsoft, if you're reading this.... why? It's objectively worse.
2 days ago [-]
kristianp 2 days ago [-]
Sounds like just tinkering at the edges. Still not upgrading my older X1 carbon with 16GB from windows 10.
ActionHank 2 days ago [-]
Best upgrade you can put on there would be linux, will be better than win10 8 days of the week
kristianp 1 days ago [-]
I agree, my other box is Linux. I keep it on Win 10 for compatibility reasons, but am thinking of reinstalling without enabling onedrive, as performance is dog slow. I'll probably try uninstalling Onedrive first.
dmitrygr 2 days ago [-]
What worthy features have they added since win2k that justify the 7.75 GB more RAM being needed?
shakna 1 days ago [-]
Every click, keyboard tap, and peripheral event, are now logged and (most) of those are then sent back to Microsoft.
With Windows' socket-hogging, its a miracle they can be this invasive and only use that much RAM.
pjmlp 1 days ago [-]
The same question could be asked about modern Linux distros versus 1990's.
p0w3n3d 2 days ago [-]
The architecture has been changed fundamentally. AFAIK the old windows 2000 had flaws beyond repair. On the other hand the UI overlay build on UI overlay built on UI overlay, making everything a html page etc was terrible direction
1718627440 1 days ago [-]
Interestingly enough Windows 7 boots faster (in a VM) than both Windows 10 and Windows XP. It feels faster than Windows 10 while running too.
dmitrygr 2 days ago [-]
You might be thinking of win9x. Win2k had no flaws and was perfect in all ways. I will not be taking questions.
winstonwinston 1 days ago [-]
My bet is on Windows Millennium Edition (Windows ME). That was broken version. Windows 2000 was good.
While WinMe was 98 successor and meant for home use, Win2k was business oriented.
olyjohn 1 days ago [-]
God WinME was such hot garbage. Windows 2000 Workstation ran everything that ME ran. I fucking gamed on it, and did everything. It was faster and more stable, than ME. I never understood why people I knew who were computer nerds ran that steaming pile of shit.
degaart 1 days ago [-]
> Win2k had no flaw
Win2k could only display 16-color icons in its systray
conception 8 hours ago [-]
Nobody needs more than 16-color icons.
—Bill Gates
hulitu 1 days ago [-]
Auto hiding scrollbars and useless online help even when you don't have an Internet connection. Ah, and gray on gray, 1px borders and usage of titlebars as window content. And Automatic Updates, Automatic Restarts, Automatic Encryption (they know the key), Automatic ID ( you are a good citizen and don't want to make anything stupid).
Why would anyone want or need an operating system that requires 16GB (!) of RAM to run decently? Most of the trash running is probably profiling or spying on you.
At one point the OS that's now a complete car was just a wheel which didn't do anything but roll.
From the generation that gave us XML, SOAP and Trump.
If you cannot contribute except to complain about the kids log off.
Been hearing effectively the same whiny shit since I was a kid in the 1980s when your now long dead elders called your generation "gold star for nothings" and lamented humanity needed another Vietnam to thin you all out.
My only Windows machine has a Core Ultra 7 in it, and 32GB of DDR5 RAM. It should be powerful enough to render a menu instantly, I thought.
Or better yet, who at Microsoft decided this performance was adequate? Does nobody care anymore? Or just not the right people?
With Windows' socket-hogging, its a miracle they can be this invasive and only use that much RAM.
While WinMe was 98 successor and meant for home use, Win2k was business oriented.
Win2k could only display 16-color icons in its systray
—Bill Gates